Sunday, June 25, 2006

Dices and Idiots

It's a Friday night and we have a $10 game going on. Only a few players at the monent. A sloppy, younger man walks up to the table with a singe red chip and puts in into the "field bet." I call out "No Bet!" And as he picks up the bet I tell him it is a $10 table.

So after he watches for a few minutes he asks "how can I buy five dices like that?" I had to laugh out loud!

First of all dices? That's a verb! The act of dicing, perhaps as you would with veggies!
Dice is the plural form for more than one Die.

Now on the whole $10 game topic. I love, and when I saw Love, I really mean Hate, people who want to play and treat it like roulette. IT IS NOT $10 TOTAL!!! It's $10 per bet! And then people want to put their own bets down... Someone throws $10 into the hard 10 area, I have to pick up the bet anyway, ask whose it is and what it is. If you are a dice dealer you know, but otherwise everyone asks how we know whose bet is whose... and this is why we have placement and geographic acknowledgement for each player. Where a player stands around the table decides where their bets are set up and therefor reminds us who to pay when that bet wins. This is why only the pass and dont pass, come and field areas are SELF SERVE. So keep your hands out of the bet zones of numbers and prop bet areas!

Some days I just wanna whack people with the stick!

9 comments:

FleaStiff said...

Some days you want to whack people with the stick???
What about whacking the boxman for me when I'm buying in and he asks "how do I want it?". Doesn't he know his job? I put down cash, he counts out chips. Why does he have to interrupt my thought processes. Its 3.0 on the table... does he think I want All White?

And how about whacking the dealer for me for when I'm buying in and put a 100 dollars down in the Come and say 'chips only' and he responds with 'Can't. We are out of chips'. If he wants to be a commedian, I ain't stopping him from going down to the local Comedy Club and auditioning. If he would prefer I say 'checks', he can say so, but he is a craps dealer, not a comic and I ain't there to laugh at his jokes.

DiceGRRL said...

wow did you have a bitter vegas experience or what!

sometimes i do whack my boxman, but where i work he doesn't have anything to do with making your change, i do it myself! and no the stickman can not make change for anyone at any time!

if you were playing a 3.00 table, you may not want to play white at all, and just want to play 5.00 units... its courteous to ask. don't feel offended.

what kind of thought process do you have at the time of buying in? craps isn't a thinker game... in my opinion. you just bet and wait for the dealers to give you money or take your money.

i am not going to make excuses for the funny-man dealer. we all like to have fun or it gets disenchanting, and then might as well have a job in a cubicle...*cough*
I make funnies a lot myself, and i am not alone, if you don't like it play in an uppity casino... not a fun, easy-going one.

FleaStiff said...

"...play in an uppity casino, not a fun, easy-going one" ... ah, if only they had signs that indicated which was which! Actually, I think I did enjoy the seriousness of the Venetian more than some of the Comedy Central places, but I don't begrudge some dealer trying to liven up his day with a few jokes (I just wish they weren't directed at me). One recent trip to Vegas resulted in my winding up in Terribles where the watered-down orange juice, the dealers and the other players were all jokes unto themselves especially when I had just left The Venetian. I still tipped generously despite the change in atmosphere though.

And I don't truly think you as stickman should actually whack the boxman but with three grand on a five dollar table I really did find it annoying when he asked how I wanted it, even though I do realize now that its the right thing for him to do and is indeed a simple courtesy. Maybe I should have said to him 'all White'... just to see his reaction! Though I guess I should admit that this particular event was Biloxi not Vegas. When the Tray Lizzard takes drink orders, its okay for the dealers to try to order a drink too. Everyone knows the dealer is joking. Though a trip to the Isle of Capri in Biloxi recently turned me off to the entire casino and I will never enter it again. One post-Katrina IP trainee dealer liked to take Come-bets on the shooter's Seven-out, that didn't seem quite so humorous particularly after the third time, so I just quietly moved to a nearby table.

Its a fine line between a dealer being humorous and being distracting. On my next trip to Vegas, I'll be on the lookout for a sign saying "uppity casino", but I'll also come visit your place and enjoy your jokes too.

DiceGRRL said...

Well just to let you know the company i work for, reigns over many of the strip casinos, and enforces a very 'friendly' way of business.
we're encouraged to tell jokes, ask you questions and build a relationship with you, use your name, push the rewards card, and 'be your friend' win or loose, tips or not. if we are quite and private and don't do all the above we get reprimanded. so i could make a list of casinos here where you'll encounter dealers with jokes and conversation.

FleaStiff said...

Yes. I guess most players prefer some humor and dealers probably enjoy a bit of lively banter rather than having a "sterile table" dealing to morose fleas.

One dealer handed off my stack to me with a comment 'thats all he told me to give you'... well, it wasn't a short stack or anything. He was probably just trying to liven things up a bit, but at 7:00am and pre-coffee I can't be livened up at all.

I try not to let my tipping behavior change if the jokes are not to my liking. Even when I ordered orange juice and got served a screwdriver (on an empty stomach) I just went merrily along with it.

I do have one question for you, if you don't mind: Once I dropped down some green to get a stack of reds and just then the dealer gave a stack of red to a different player who immediately left the table. I kept my mouth shut because I wasn't certain if it was a dealer error or not. Should I have spoken up immediately or not? I figured its their game, so I kept quiet. When the dealer didn't give me any reds, I finally opened my yap about it. Should people speak up promtly in that situation? I figured I was a player, not a dealer and not security!

DiceGRRL said...

Use common sense, if you have any. This goes for everyone!

And common sense goes well with good manners!

If it was a craps able you dropped the green for red and the red went into someone else's hands, speak out.. to the guy who picked it up and to the boxman. if the guy leaves so fast with a stac'k of red, its likely he knew it was't his but was dishonest enough to run with it. you're in a lineup of averagely 8 other people on that table rail, and when you blend in until we get to know you. I usually ask who the green belongs to before i even pull out hte stack of red, esp if there are TOTAL REWARDS cards in use, and the right person is due credit on their card.

it was $100, not like a whimsy cup of coffee at Starbutts, where the guy picks up his wrong coffee and goes on his way to work.

Just remember DEALERS ARE HUMAN too! we have bad days, just like you, we get headaches just like you, and we make mistakes JUST LIKE YOU.

FleaStiff said...

Yes, I'm sure dealers can from time to time make mistakes. One dealer positioned a five dollar come bet as if it were for another player and when it hit paid him. That player simply moved the chips over towards me though I had suffered through a few anxious minutes but hadn't wanted to criticize the dealer.

With this 'stack of reds' incident, I'm not ever going to be certain of what happened. I was 'concerned' when the Player at position 3 directly opposite the dealer got "a" stack of reds, but wasn't sure that it was "the" stack of reds that should have gone to myself at Position 8. I really wasn't sure if the Player who quickly left was leaving with the wrong cup of coffee or not, but as you say, his prompt departure may be indicative that he did know he had the wrong cup of coffee. I really do hope the dealer didn't get into any trouble for this and regret not having spoken up sooner but even when I did speak up he seemed 'out of it' for awhile.

DiceGRRL said...

well anyway good luck in the future, and always keep an eye on your money!

FleaStiff said...

" and always keep an eye on your money"
Yes. My companion's first time at a craps table featured a player who asked her about a five dollar chip of his that had rolled under the somewhat slow table. When she focused her attention on the floor, I leaned over and protected her chips and then asked her "are you through helping the nice man find his lost kitten? Keep your eyes on your chips and on the dealers!" It was probably an excessively rude comment that I made on the spur of the moment but I didn't like the distraction of some jerk interrupting the roll. I generally prefer a more "sterile table".